I figured it out, the include file must be in the base of the pages calling other pages.e.g i use include files from a base default.asp page. the include must be put in the very base level asp page.

looks like im in this one by my self at the moment, i guess its to much to ask for support 5.30am in the morning. Man us australian developers work hard!!!!!!

 

i do hav a new problem now though,

 

Failed to load the language text from the XML file?